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your argument is fallacious. restate your propositions and conclusions. trying to be a smart ass and shit.. lol fking joke
you keep talking about a small chance that the dog will bite.. well no duh! it's not impossible that the dog will bite. Just about anything has a small chance of injuring someone or killing someone. All these commenters are just saying is that the picture is adorable and for some fucking reason you keep going on about the dog biting. it's good that you care for the kid, but you're being a fucking asshole about it. calling us morons for saying it's adorable? who the fuck you think you are? I could say that the parents are irresponsible for the act, but at the same time i could say the photo itself is adorable.
you know what danny, i laid down my argument, clearly and concisely. it's my opinion and i am sticking to it. the harshest tone i took with anyone was to say they are a moron, and your tone more than proves it.
you on the other hand, can do nothing other than offer pussified insults, meaningless drivel and uninformed, vague taunts.
i'm all done talking about it anyway. i said what i had to say and i'm done. i'm not going to argue with some 17 year old dipshit.
I dont understand why everybody is saying its so horrible. my son has been around great danes, and around pitbulls his entire life. his best friend is Moose the pitbull. you have to acclimate the dog to the child. I know for sure what my dog is tolerant of and what he is not, because everything that my son does to him I have done to him first. Yeah, there is a chance that he could get bit. There is also a chance that I could get bit, or anybody gets bit. Working in a veterinary hospital the breeds that are considered bully breeds, mastiffs, pitbulls, german shepherds all of those types, I have very seldom get bit by. Its the breeds that are "family" dogs, the labs, the chihuahuas, the little dogs that are more apt to bite. Keep in mind the first face transplant had to be done because a ladys own lab bit her face off
i may have crude language towards you because you were being an asshole, but you were making asshole judgements. You made an opinion then you called people morons for saying it's adorable. I maybe a teenager and a dipshit, but at least i'm not some old fucking dumb ass that doesn't know how to make a good argument. Shit your opinion was fine, but calling people morons for saying it's adorable is fucking stupid.
Lol pussified insults.. look at what your fucking reply says. Your words are the pussified insults. lol dumb ass. hahaha learn how to construct a good argument.
You people are idiots...all dogs have personalities and this one was quiet obviously very passive and understands its relationship with the baby and its owners...The dog loves the baby
you people referring to rick right? cuz i agree with you about the dog, but im confused if you're calling us all idiots..
let me clarify this so i can (hopefully) put this all in perspective. firstly, i probably over dramatized my position by calling everyone morons. i apologize.except for the kid whose favorite adjective is 'fuck', lol...
secondly. i have a 150lb bullmastiff. he is a wonderful dog, with an even temperment. he resembles this dog in size, although his color is fawn. like most mastiffs, he is intelligent, obedient and gentle, for the most part. and he also scares the shit out of a lot of people.
he has also killed coyotes that attacked him. he is a free-range dog, so i don't leash him when i walk him. but i have the leash with me at all times, just in case.if we are around people, i leash him. not so much for him but to make people feel comfortable around him.he's big, he's strong and he looks scary and i accept that not everybody is gonna have the same feelings of ease around him as i do.
so, i don't doubt for a minute that this particular dog is a wonderful dog. it's apparent.what i have a hard time with, as a large breed dog owner, is that someone else may see this picture and feel the need to replicate it with their dog, their child. failing that, perhaps someone elses child. or dog.
you can train dogs to take a lot of grief. you can acclimate them to family members, friends, neighbors, etc.but you cannot train a dog to like someone. i thinki it was emmanuel kant that said, 'you can make a man do anything, but you cannot make a man WANT to do anything. it's much the same with a dog.
you cannot teach a dog right from wrong. you can only teach him to obey, and to know that his actions are approved of or unapproved of. beneath this veil, however, the dog has it's own wants and not-wants. it obeys because ultimately, it's master can express disapproval or inflict discomfort upon the dog, or praise and comfort. or food.if the dog feels you are not as strong as it, it will rebel, it will disobey and it may do as it damn well pleases.basically, if you tell a dog to 'sit' and it walks away, your dog is basically flipping you off.
this picture is adorable, yes. dangerously adorable. i see it as the equivelant of a youtube video of some kid skate boarding off his roof. someone will think 'i can do that better' and they very well may. or they very well may not.
dogs are not cats. you can give them training and instruction. if it is a profesional working dog, 100% is not only expected, it is required and demanded of the animal. it is crucial the dog follow orders, instructions.
with a companion dog, the rules a re usualy a bit more lax, the dog is given some latitude in most cases. you call it in at night, one time, two times, three times. and it comes in from doing whatever it is dogs do when not under the watchful eyes of humanity. and that's fine; nobody's going to freak out about it.
your dog growls at another dog. that's natural, expected.he barks at a car, chases a cat, digs a hole in your garden, takes a piss on your neighbor's bush, shits on the school's baseball field. all in a day's work. that's what dogs do, and do and do again.
my point is that there is always the sliver of a chance that something may happen. as a parent, even that small iota of a percentage is enough for me, as a father, to avoid the situation.the majority of people here are totally correct: nothing bad will probably happen....probably.but something could happen. the nicest of dogs will bite. the tamest of dogs will bite.
i am 100% pro-dog ownership. i believe everyone should, if possible, own a dog. it teaches responsibility, provides unconditional love, compantionship and i just think having a dog around is good for anyone's basic psychology.i also think that dogs are not playthings, or toys. they are sentient creatures, have incredibly complex emotions and are totally incapable of hiding their feellings, as we humans are so adept at. they can feel slighted, unloved, ignored, unappreciated just like any of us, and more.
in the final analysis, the picture makes me uncomfortable. i am not going to pull away from that. something could happen, but probably won't. i get it. the dog is more than likely properly trained and acclimated to the child and people in general. but owning any dog in the mastiff family is a bit like owning a jeep: you start to notice all the other ones. and from what i have seen, again and again and again, is that these dogs are chronically given poor, slipshod training. they are bounced from one owner to another, to the pound or to the various dog adoption agencies, once the full brunt of ownership of these dogs becomes apparent. as a result, a lot of these dogs are neurotic, untrusting and withdrawn
mastiff's are very large dogs and as a result are more often than not much more likely to feel somewhat equal to people, in their minds. they are totally accustomed to people shirking from them, moving away from them, or regarding them with trepidation. they know how big they are, and they know that they can frighten people. this makes them much, much different from, say, a collie, or a lab. they are just different, and they MUST be given this consideration.
so! i hope i have 'restated my propositions and conclusions' to everyone's satisfactions. goodnight.
i apologize for using crude language. The language is in my nature because of the people i grew up with. i was fine with what you said about the dog and the kid, but it just pissed me off when you just called everyone morons just like that. I was like wth...
You know there is a 0.1% chance that the world will really end this year. Have you already built a bunker for it rick? I grew up with dogs as pets. They formed a very important part of my life they still do. Please get a dog and live with it for a while so that your phobia bordering sociopathy towards them can be taken care of.
perhaps you might read all of my posts and care to comment again. to wit:
i do have a dog. a 150lb bullmastiff. i think it's wonderful you grew up with dogs. that's great.i don't see anything i have said as bordering on any phobias; but as a parent, the concerns are obvious.
danny gave me a reality check earlier on, so i will refrain from responding to your jibes with insultsand hopefully prevent a flame war. instead, here's a few links.
needless to say, i don't think that 0.1% chance of the world ending is going to make any of these family members feel any better about what has happened. i would also wonder if any of the above parties concerned would find this picture as adorable as most of the people in here have. so, i don't see myself exhibiting any phobias in any of my statements.
and sociopathy is a personality defect, not a phobia. read all my posts, get my full opinion and then feel free to insult me, ok?
Rickorden you need to stop writing novels to everyone who comments about this. We get it. You don't approve. Stop beating the dead horse. You don't like it? Don't do it to your kid. They will live with their own consequences. My big dog and my baby play just fine all day every day. Theres a 50% chance shes gonna pull something on top of herself and die. I dont lock her in a crib all day. Shut up.
What startles me about this series of photos is what seems to be a progression of increasingly violent and dangerous actions from the dog, with no response from the supervising adults but to take photos. If you look back at the photos, the dog appears to head but the infant, followed by an attempt to smother the child. It is then seen to be "licking it's chops" in what in my estimation can only be an indication of the dog planning to ingest the baby. That the baby was able to pull off an evasive maneuver and put himself into a position to mount a counter attack is quite remarkable. I imagine it was at this point that the custodians of the child may have put down the camera and rescued the little guy.
Aren't dogs great!! The link between animals and humans is amazing! I think it shows that dogs really do go to heaven or maybe the owners that have respect for their animals to treat them as if they are one of the best things in life go to heaven, maybe they go to heaven together!! Thank you for sharing how loving and caring animals really are!!
you guys need to chill the hell out this is cute the baby isnt dangerous neither is the dog and to be taking pictures up close like that they must be keeping a very close eye on them i dont see why ya'll have to be logical or percent this and hurting that its just something nice that you guys have to screw up with ur words u guys are b*****s u turned something cute into something bad shame on all of u who said mean stuff about this post
You're ignorant. It is perfectly alright for you to believe that very large dogs around babies is a dangerous thing. But it isn't alright for you to be obnoxious, a hypocrite and plain stupid. You claim to be a parent and a bull mastiff owner. So, are you trying to tell us that you're child is never in the same room as your bull mastiff? Assuming that someone that has time to waste bitching on the computer about baby pictures and being arrogant and ignornant while doing so doesn't live in a huge mansion somewhere...it is safe to say that the open space in any given room in your house is within 12 square feet. So....can't that big dog vicously murder your child while you are apparently spending ridiculous amounts of time on the internet? Because don't you know that "one meaningless nip" from your dog will leave your child "disfigured for LIFE"?!?!?
Just let everyone enjoy these precious pictures of a baby (that clearly is fully intact) and his friend (who CLEARLY is NOT brutally attacking him) and go about your business protecting your little angel from that death machine of a dog you own.
Why do people never learn? And why take a chance no matter how small with your precious baby? Jusf baffling to me how irrisponsible some people are!
Personally, I think you're all fucking stupid. These people want their kid near a dog that size, let 'em. It's their problem if the child gets eaten for lunch.
Hey rickrodenChill out and get a life. I've had my pit for 6 years and she's never hurt ANYTHING. Except a couple tennis balls.
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